Conradson: He’s optimistic about his situation, even though he’s been persecuted by his own government. Can you speak to his level of forgiveness? I understand he’s very forgiving of the people that have put them in this situation, despite how awful it really is.
Chansley: Yeah. It’s pretty amazing that Jacob would have forgiveness in his heart, isn’t it? He doesn’t hold a grudge because if you understand that when you hold a grudge and you hold anger inside towards others, then it’s like drinking poison. You’re drinking poison and expecting the other person that you’re holding this grudge against to be poisoned, but you’re actually poisoning yourself when you hold grudges. It’s something that isn’t easy to do. Not many people can do it.
Conradson: How does it make you feel that Jake, your son, he’s such a peaceful guy, he’s such a level-headed guy, and they’re calling him a domestic terrorist? They’re actually treating him like a domestic terrorist. What do you make of that?
Chansley: It’s ridiculous, and the nation, those that have not been in the know and have an understanding of who Jake is, now have a now know the truth that Jacob is not a terrorist. He is a patriot. He is a shaman. He’s America’s shaman. He practices shamanism. He is about peace, love, harmony, and things of that nature and bringing that to the table and teaching others that, through examples should do the same.
Conradson: I’m sure you’ve seen the January 6 tapes that Tucker Carlson has released. Has Jacob been able to watch those?
Chansley: Yeah, he actually saw them on the TV there. He’s pretty happy that even after two years, it’s what he’s been saying from the beginning, right? “I walked through open doors, I was escorted to into the Senate.” So, it’s vindication. It’s vindication at this point to say, “see, I was telling the truth.”
Conradson: I understand, you’re expecting him to be released soon. Is that the case?
Chansley: Yep. Soon, really soon. Isn’t it exciting?
Conradson: not much word on when?
Chansley: No, just soon.
Conradson: That’s good. At least he’s gonna be released soon. I mean, he should not have been serving any time in prison, let alone 41 months. What are your thoughts on his first attorney, Al Watkins, and his representation of Jake?
Chansley: My feelings on it [are] I think he ended up being in over his head. He thought it was going to be a simple misdemeanor case, which is what it should have been. But, you know, that’s my opinion. Anyway, that’s the thing about putting your trust in someone that you believe is telling you that this is the direction that you need to go in, some of the things he said and that he did, things that he said that Jake said, that Jake didn’t say, things of that nature, or some of the derogatory things that he said about Jake, it’s those kinds of things, and again, I really think he was in over his head. There are things that he could have done, so much better, right? You don’t represent your client the way he did. And some of the ways that he did. You just don’t do that to a client. Those are my thoughts on it. Yeah, it’s sad to me. It’s sad to me.
Chansley: I gotta give a lot of credit to Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson brought to light, even in the beginning, “what’s he doing? What did he do?” He even said that! This was over a year ago when he was like, “What did this guy do? What, what evidence is showing that he did anything violent?” And here we are, fast forward, and here’s the evidence, the physical, you know. And of course, I believe you also wrote something as well about Jake.
Conradson: What can we do more to help here at the Gateway Pundit or the American people? Is there a GoFundMe, is there a GiveSendGo, or is it just prayers? What are your best thoughts on how to help?
Chansley: Prayers are always welcome. You know prayers work. There’s a GiveSendGo, it’s GiveSendGo.com/FreeJake. And there’s a January 6th Defense Fund if somebody wanted to give to that Defense Fund. So just make sure that if they decide to go that route that would be through Bill Shipley. Bill Shipley is running that as well. That’s Jacobs lawyer right now.